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Post by henthymes on Sept 24, 2011 7:28:39 GMT -5
I have cuckoo bantams and large fowl. THe white Orpingtons in America carry the barred gene. Christina, any chance of getting a pair (bantam or course) or even eggs from you? (fingers crossed) I will be at Crossroads but if that doesn't work for you shipping is good.  |
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 24, 2011 9:41:42 GMT -5
Heres a pic of a Silver Crele pair in Leghorns. (Of course not in the US :/ )   That one on that right has almost identical markings. Mine has a smidge more Salmon in the breast. And doesn't have the yellow legs. I hope to have one or IF lucky 2 more of these like that just starting to grow out. |
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Post by korfuskluckers on Sept 24, 2011 12:51:11 GMT -5
I dont have tons of cuckoo bantams and have not culled through yet. I do have a gentleman back east that wants a pair or trio. I should have eggs fall or spring if no adult birds. Here is a cuckoo LF  Here is one of my young black pullets  |
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Post by jjthornton on Sept 25, 2011 7:51:55 GMT -5
I'm glad to see other folks are thinkin about Crele Orps. I have spent 40+ years tryin to improve existing varieties but have never took on tryin to develope 1 from scratch. Thanks everyone for the info and if at any point anyone is going to sell a couple extra Cuckoo let me know. It might save me a generation or 2 breeding for type.
Thanks, Jeff
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Post by d12chandler on Sept 25, 2011 11:26:01 GMT -5
It's fun to do a little chicken project. I have tried the Golden Laced Orp deal and that was a wreck. Now we have those in the US and I think they could be alot of fun. I have always thought Crele was a pretty chicken. The little Old English Creles are just great looking I think. I have Rosecombs close, males need a little more work, been about 7 years. I might need to do a another Crele project myself, only thing those standards can eat alot of feed. Bill. the Silver Duckwing, is she a orp project?
Don
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Post by Jon Alden on Sept 25, 2011 19:14:57 GMT -5
It's fun to do a little chicken project. I have tried the Golden Laced Orp deal and that was a wreck. Now we have those in the US and I think they could be alot of fun. I have always thought Crele was a pretty chicken. The little Old English Creles are just great looking I think. I have Rosecombs close, males need a little more work, been about 7 years. I might need to do a another Crele project myself, only thing those standards can eat alot of feed. Bill. the Silver Duckwing, is she a orp project? Don You could do bantams  . |
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 26, 2011 8:35:23 GMT -5
It's fun to do a little chicken project. I have tried the Golden Laced Orp deal and that was a wreck. Now we have those in the US and I think they could be alot of fun. I have always thought Crele was a pretty chicken. The little Old English Creles are just great looking I think. I have Rosecombs close, males need a little more work, been about 7 years. I might need to do a another Crele project myself, only thing those standards can eat alot of feed. Bill. the Silver Duckwing, is she a orp project? Don Don, She is one that just popped out from these offspring from my 1/2 Akers Buff and 1/2 Meyer hatchery garbage Black cock. I was told that this cock has alot of hidden recessive genes. And apparently these Silver Duckwings are some of them. The mixed cock is nothing special in looks. Other then being a big boy. 11 lbs plus. But he has sired a few nice Black orps. Nothing as nice as Christina's hen. But we're working on it. Now I think I am into trying to make a few more of these Silver Duckwings, I like the look. And will use them with several different males to see what pops out. |
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Post by jjthornton on Nov 22, 2011 21:16:12 GMT -5
Does anyone know if a Horstman Partridge Rock cock and a clean legged Cuckoo Maran hen would work instead of the Brown Leghorn and the barred rock. I can't find a brown Leghorn cock I do have access to good quality Barred rocks if I need them.
Jeff
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Post by d12chandler on Nov 22, 2011 21:41:59 GMT -5
I think a red dorking female, if you could find one would be the ticket to crele. Look in the standard at the red dorking female, a perfect bbred.
don
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Post by Jon Alden on Nov 22, 2011 22:08:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know if a Horstman Partridge Rock cock and a clean legged Cuckoo Maran hen would work instead of the Brown Leghorn and the barred rock. I can't find a brown Leghorn cock I do have access to good quality Barred rocks if I need them. Jeff That would work would look a bit different though. Don a red dorking would work also. |
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Post by jjthornton on Nov 23, 2011 4:28:43 GMT -5
I'll check on that. I do know a guy not far from me that used to have Red Dorkings. Thank Ya'll I still want a crele Orp.
Jeff
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Post by d12chandler on Nov 24, 2011 20:49:28 GMT -5
When I did the Rosecomb Creles I used 2 pens. 1. had a crele old english male and bbred rosecomb females. This pen got me crele rosecomb females with a poor comb. Pen 2 had a cuckoo rosecomb male over bbred rosecomb females, I got alot more black on the creles. When I crossed these 2 pens offspring they just came together. I did cross a black rosecomb male over my crele females to help with the comb. I would get 1 out of 15 chicks that came crele, but it was a nice comb. In this deal where you are using single combs that helps. Just takes time.
Don
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Post by d12chandler on Nov 25, 2011 18:08:30 GMT -5
I have been thinking today, I know that could be bad. If I used a Red Dorking female in a pen and I could find a Lemon Cockoo male that would be one cross and after I used the Lemon male I would get a cuckoo male from Wild Bill and us it on the Red Dorking. The next year I would cross the 2 pens offspring. You would get close to a crele.
Don
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Post by Jon Alden on Nov 25, 2011 19:01:58 GMT -5
I have been thinking today, I know that could be bad. If I used a Red Dorking female in a pen and I could find a Lemon Cockoo male that would be one cross and after I used the Lemon male I would get a cuckoo male from Wild Bill and us it on the Red Dorking. The next year I would cross the 2 pens offspring. You would get close to a crele. Don I dont think that lemon cuckoos would be be a good cross it would throw something else in there that you dont need, IMO. |
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Post by d12chandler on Nov 25, 2011 19:44:22 GMT -5
Could be, I'll try and catch Dr. Petty this week end and get his thoughts.
Don
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