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Post by lildinkem on Aug 21, 2013 9:01:55 GMT -5
Davy you should give that male a chance to fill out some more. You may change your mind when he does. I like him. I think he is worth using or at least test hatching a few from him. Once he is gone it is very hard to replace a nice longer back like that. I talked to Harry yesterday. As you know I got my start from using Harry's male. His blood, is also in your Whites. Harry said he is amazed how the heads on your birds and my birds look some much different then his. He too likes to see what you and I are making far as these Whites go. Come next season I will take this White Columbian (now I am calling him a White Delaware). Had several of my mentors says that is the look he is taking on. Seen someone on ShowBird selling their F-1 Dels and their Del's have not got as good a look far as what many want in Del's as this Delaware orp cockerel I have. Remember I also have his sister. So, come next seson, if you like some eggs from him, I will be using him with both his sister and some of my better White pullets from this season. Just ask for some eggs and pay for shipping and I can send ya some. Here is a pic I took yesterday of one of my hopeful prospects for the future. I forwarded this pic to my friend Paul, he is an APA judge also raises White Orps. I am on the fence on how nice this cockerel is. Paul, who knows how these birds look at this age said he look promising. To give him time. Here is another one that maybe in my future plans for my Whites. Paul also said the pullet pic I just posted, as he put it "looks like a dandy, and what blood line is she from". That is a very good critique from someone who I know may have the very best White Orps in this hemisphere. Paul does not show his birds, and does not sell to anyone. To try to get anything from him, you have a better chance on being on the next Space Shuttle Mission. And we know what the odds of that happening is.
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Post by lildinkem on Aug 25, 2013 17:21:40 GMT -5
Took a few pics of my White cocks who are the sires this season. First one is the fantastic cock from Harry. I basically built a flock of Whites because of this boy. Took him to a Buff Sport from Joyce and have this fella as the best I have kept. I think you can see the resemblance. Love the clean face look on Orps. Also took Harry's cock to some of Ron's single comb White Wyantdottes. The one I kept from that cross. He is a bit smaller. I like his type He also has decent width. But, is not as big as his 1/2 brother featured above. Also nice clean face. Which means nothing to anyone else but does to me. This is one of very few cockerels who I am looking to see how they develop.
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 1, 2013 15:19:48 GMT -5
Not the best pic for this 15 month old boy. But you get the idea. Davy you may like to see this F-1 from crossing a White single comb Wyandotte with one of Harry's cocks. I think you can appreciate this fella and inspire you with your flock to hatch as many out as you can. He is in with one of my friend from the North hens and 2 nice solid Buff Sports. He is picky and is not attending all the girls. So, I hope for some like him who will.
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Post by crystalwhite on Sept 1, 2013 18:52:05 GMT -5
Very nice lildinkem.I really like that boy looks like a nice wide tail,That is something i don't have yet. David
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 1, 2013 19:49:07 GMT -5
Very nice lildinkem.I really like that boy looks like a nice wide tail,That is something i don't have yet. David He was a sleeper out of the 7 cockerels of Whites from last season. He was a later in the season hatch. Did not really start to look good to me until MAYish. Then I put him in with these hens I picked up. I am proud of myself this season. The only birds I got this year were the 2 Buff Sports pullets, who just started to lay, and one of Doug beautiful Buff pullets. I have her in with the $20 Akers cock I bought 3 years ago from Doug. Those 2 are the only ones who are making nice Buffs. I have a couple of babies from them with the larger head gene. my plan is to use them next season to 2 of these Buff Sports. It will give me a totally new line of Buffs that I can take back to the Buff line I made last season with the Britt/Akers hen I had who was, as Harry would say, a stormer. Work with what you have and you will be rewarded.
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Post by crystalwhite on Sept 4, 2013 20:18:42 GMT -5
Hello everyone here are some pic of a white pullet.I really like her and she has nice white legs and skin and even a nice tail.She does not have the size i like but i think shes a keeper.Let me know what you think. David
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 4, 2013 20:40:23 GMT -5
Hello everyone here are some pic of a white pullet.I really like her and she has nice white legs and skin and even a nice tail.She does not have the size i like but i think shes a keeper.Let me know what you think. David I like her Davy. Definitely keep her!
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 6, 2013 16:44:30 GMT -5
Here is a pic of a hatch of 3 today. These are 3/4's quarters Harry's line. Their little butterballs!
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 8, 2013 19:08:27 GMT -5
Here is a pullet from the half White Wyandotte hen which is daughter to Harry's cock. Now I know the Wyandotte line has some White Rock, which I believe is Silver. Reason for worrying about down color is to identify the Silver gene Whites. Now I hope this pullet has that gene. No matter she is looking to be a good one to breed.
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Post by reniespeeps on Sept 8, 2013 22:21:49 GMT -5
I have some well... either you call them white splash.... or you call them blue legged whites <shrug> not sure. Tried to get a pic of her today... but they ain't that great! Attachments:
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Post by harrys on Sept 9, 2013 9:54:56 GMT -5
After a hatching season of frustration with blue legged whites I am still in fine shape with at least 20 white pullets to pick from. I was worried I would be short for next season on pullets. In fact my only worry should have been will I have enough lavender pullets to pick from. I hatched very few blues and none are exhibition type except maybe a cockerel which will probably hit the road. The others are for improving another color and some have next to no lacing which will be perfect but they did not come from the large blue UK type hen only the cockerel did. I have a good amount of blacks pullets to pick from and some are UK type and others are APA type. I am giving a young fellow some birds and hopefully he will take up the hobby once he is old enough to understand it more.
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Post by reniespeeps on Sept 9, 2013 10:30:29 GMT -5
Sorry.... Harry which do you recommend.... breeding this pullet to Midas... for better leg color and type?? Or find a white roo??
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 9, 2013 10:59:08 GMT -5
Renie, I am not speaking for Harry, but as well as for 2 of my other mentors. Including Harry they have encouraged me to use the absolute best type Orpington in your breeding program for all you varieties. From what I have seen of all the UK Buff Orp cocks in this hemisphere your boy in your avatar is about the best. Take hime to your White girls. You will have then to use the female offspring back to an all White male. By, then you should have hatched out some. So, I would do like I did with my Shafer 13 lbs Cuckoo cock and took that boy to some Pontious Whites in early spring, and also did the same short breeding of my Buff Columbian to my Northen line of White Orps male for a short 2 or 3 week pairing. I would only use your Blue legged Whites girls . Dump any boys with that problem. I have the same issue with the girls from the Cuckoo/White cross. Unless the males are White legged do not use them. Even then I think they can carry 2 leg color genes and you will still need to test hatch. Here is an example of the Shafer Cuckoo line I have over the Pontious White line. Goal is here to build a very large White to use with pullets like the only I posted above to correct all the traits I see that I do not like. This pic is to show the diff between the pullet's leg skin and her brother's. Noticeably a Blue tint to her leg color when compared. Here she is with Harold the Brown/Red who getting ready to molt. I do like her full rounded front breast. Remined me of a fella from Ireland who recently posted about the epidemic of flat chested Orps over there and I can say that hold true here. Definitely a trait that is high on my radar. At least for my taste.
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Post by harrys on Sept 9, 2013 12:00:58 GMT -5
Renie, Don't know if your hen is carrying the silver based gene which is necessary for a pure white. I would take Midas over her and then keep the nicest cockerel to breed to the mother and sisters. If she is carrying the silver base gene the young males will have 1 of the two genes as silver base. Which may also be nice your Buff may also be carrying a wheaton gene which will dilute the young hens color in the second generation. I have seen that the pullets generally are just about always pure white even in the sun but the males are the problem. Now if you may have a silver laced cock bird he would be ideal to breed to your white pullet. I really don't know what resources you have available. Mating to a black male will let you know if you have a recessive white or a splash. Splash will give 100% blue but if recessive white you may get some black chicks from her. You have many options to do with that white hen, luckily you will also have the time. Good luck.
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Post by crystalwhite on Sept 19, 2013 11:01:41 GMT -5
Hello everyone here are some pics of one of my old white hens let me know what you think.David
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