I was thinking about the genetics of the matter and I think that your two Buff Columbian birds (SS/BO) get the columbian gene from the Sussex and the buff dilutes the Red to get that Orange Buff color. These guys should also carry the mottled gene so if you cross these two together then they should get some Mille/Speckled/Jubilee mottled and some more columbian birds.
Jon you maybe very well right. I have the cockerel in with her and about 6 other you growouts. I am retrying my theory that a proven cockerel in this case will train very effectively my younger males like KORgo trained my 2 oldest Black cockerels, who had not let any of my younger Black pullets slip by without laying a fertile egg. I will say this cross has made two very vigorous birds. And have 6 fertile eggs in the bator. I need to step out and squeeze back into the corner of that coop and prolly collect another 5 or 6 eggs since the last round of collecting. The little BO/SS girl like to stuff herself in the very corner of the former woodshed and presently a coop. So, collecting is only for us skinny narrow butt folks like me. Or break out a chainsaw and cut my way in. lolol
I am still saving large fowl buff eggs and would be willing sell them to UOC members on a special deal. The buyer would be asked to pay the shipping plus $2.50 for each egg that hatches. I have not had the best luck getting shipped eggs to hatch, so this helps remove some the the financial risk.
One pen is 3/4 Clevanger strain from Bob Coulter. The other pens may have some Clevanger, but are of SQ. My phone # is 218-751-2214. This deal is for UOC members. I also have Black and Blue Oprington Bantam with the same deal.
Thought I'd share a few pics. I narrowed my herd down to 4 Buff pens and just 4 Buff cocks. I am only hatching from 2 of them for now. Doug was kind enough to sell me an excellent Buff cock for $20 with fantastic color. In addition from hatching from the pen I have him in I am hatching every single egg from this pen. Dawn Suiter gave me 2 Buff hens which were hatched by Don this spring. I also have one of my better pullets I hatched out from last year in there.
Here is the Buff Sport that Doug had hatched out and gave me for my White Orp hen to use. Since both of his parents are Buffs I think he can also be used to a great Buff hen/pullet come next year. He is already mounting the girls. He is a nice size 7 month ole.
In the backround is his brother from a Nov hatch. That is my Fuesting pen, and I have yet to hatch, nor have I tried to hatch from that pen.
When you use this guy on whites will the offspring be brassie?
According to Dan Honour, who has been breeding Buff breeds forever, he said that will most likely happen. However IF I keep only the best females and go back to them with a Silver male that will clean out the brassiness. I read this in a Reliable Poultry Journal from 1911. I have several males who are mostly Silver. And that is the plan. There is an outside chance that this hen is from a Black crossed with White which MAY also prove to clean out the Brassiness. This though I am not too sure of. But, I only have one White hen. And this Buff Sport is very nice and Doug said for me to use him on her. I listened and will follow thru with that breeding first and see what comes out. I expect it may takes years before I have a quality White line to show.
Post by iamannsleesmom on Oct 9, 2011 20:43:22 GMT -5
OK here is some pics of my crew. Non of these are really recent. But if I'm gonna particitpate in this thread then you might as well see where I'm coming from...... Here was my first trio, theday I brought them home. These guys were bought from Mr. Roy Autrey in May 2010 as just turned one year olds, I lost one of the girls later that summer so was down to just a pair
just some random shots later that summer
Proud papa and poor broody hen
Youngsters growing out. Kept 2 pullets out of this group, lost one this summer I guess to heat
HEEHEE my "toe-head" orpington getting a bath before a show
At our second show Cock bird
Champ English/Champ LF Big Bird Classic - pullet
more random chickens - probably this spring
Junior Champion English, Junior champ LF, Jr Reserve Champ of show - AR state fair spring show - pullet
Open Champ English, Open Champ LF, Open Reserve Champ of show - AR state fair spring show - hen
Cockerel this spring, now just turned one year - my fave of the 2 I kept
2nd fave and chest shot - wish i had paid better attention to his wing set, may rehome him