Post by d12chandler on Jun 30, 2012 15:14:34 GMT -5
I sent some black bantam chicks to Fred for his little ones to show. They are out of black orp females and a black (chocolate) split male. He said some of the males was getting red or brown in there hackles. What do you think? This is my first time doing this choc deal.
Post by bamachicken on Jun 30, 2012 19:07:44 GMT -5
That is where I was thinking you would see it. I don't know why when you have red leakage it is usuallly the males and not the females. You can breed it out . Just dont use the male. They are usually the typiest ones.
Post by d12chandler on Jul 2, 2012 12:42:34 GMT -5
All the chicks are by a black split choc male and pure black females. There are the black babies. He is black with a little red in his hackle, and I bet he will get some in his saddle. Fred when I sent you the RIR guy I'll send you a black cock bird. He is a last year bird, I kept 3. I'm using one now, the earlier pure blacks is out of a male Warren sent me, I might do one of those. I wouldn't breed that guy with the red.
From what I understand, If your black splits are showing red in the hackles and wherever else, those birds are lacking melanic black enhancers that are needed to inhibit the autosomal reds that are leaking through. They are weak in black enhancers. But this is nothing out of the ordinary. From what I understand this is a factor which occurs with breeding chocolates. In each breeding there are likely to be birds which will lose some required melanic genetics. The chocolate gene will only work on Black it cannot alter reds. So a breeder will have to be very selective on birds to be put in the breeding pens. When choosing black split roosters, use your blackest bird and test him by holding him up in the sun, the sunlight will reveal even the smallest amount of red leakage.
Post by korfuskluckers on Aug 4, 2012 18:42:43 GMT -5
I responded to Fred via email. Opps, I must of misunderstood to post it on here. My fault, sorry folks. I think it is leakage on this particular bird. I do have a few that have a feather in their flights or main tail feathers, that has partial chocolate coloring. Not leakage "gold" but chocolate