littlechicklet, Have Gayle confirm this but if you use the hen with a light eye to a dark eyed male all the pullets with dark eyes will be good and I personally would cull the males becuase they will be carriers even if their eyes are dark. I believe it is a recessive sexlink gene that controls the light eye color.
Of course this would have to be a controlled breeding program to hatch them seperately and toe punch them to be able to identify who they really are.
Of course this would also be a way to test mate all your males using this hen to see which male is also carrying the light eye gene if you wish to eliminate it totally from the males you are using.
Gayle those pullets do look great. Not easy to get that full rounded breast. I read someone saying that he see's to many flat chested Orps. The only place that it is good to see flat on an Orp is the topline or back.
Last Edit: Sept 7, 2013 19:30:55 GMT -5 by lildinkem
I have been calling this look of Blue as a "LEMON" Blue. Being from another site that has the blind leading the blinder, I was one of those blinder ones who thought that was the variety. Last nite I sent an email to my mentor and friend Paul showing him I listened to him and Troy last fall and used this boy's daddy. Just like I listened to Alan and used my Black cock from my Brown Red I call Yosemitee. So Paul says this is a BLUE RED. And I should show him as that. I will use him in breeding next season knowing that 50% of the offspring will not express themselves as BLue Reds. Learn something everyday.
He is a mid April hatch. When he finishes out he should be nice.
So what is a lemon blue? Also how many generations & how will you breed to remove the red?
Here's this years blues. BB has one little lone blue chick that hatched today. I am so glad she got at least one for all her work.
Pretty Blues Littlechicklet! GREAT LACING! "Lemon" Blue has been coined by the same folks who coined "BBS". As you learned "BBS" is not a term used by the judges in the APA show world. Put "Lemon" Blue in that category. When I breed this Blue he will throw 1/2 with this trait and 1/2 without. Selective breeding will eradicate that gene over time.
Last Edit: Sept 9, 2013 10:00:45 GMT -5 by lildinkem
Post by littlechicklet on Sept 9, 2013 16:08:29 GMT -5
Thank you. I am going to keep all my pullets and see what next year brings. I only have 6 I think: 5 blue and 1 black plus 2 hens (one blue and the light eyed black I will not use again). Plus I have the little blue BB just hatched. So it looks like I am finally going to have a decent number of good girls to work with in the Spring.
Bill, Lemon Blue is a variety that is in the standard, go look, Blue Red is also, it is not what you have there. What you have is just blue with red leakage. From what I have been told by breeders of blue in other breeds, you want to have the Silver gene with the blue in order for better coloring, but that is hard to get since most breeders interbreed the lines of Blue and black birds within the breed. Red helps with the green sheen in the blacks.
Last Edit: Sept 9, 2013 16:18:13 GMT -5 by Jon Alden
Looking at the Old English breeders. I'm guessing. It looks like the Brown Reds, Lemon Blues, Silver Blues are sitting on the ER loci. They all appear to be modified Birchens. Noting the dark legs, lacing on the breast and the crow wings. They all look very Birchen. Then you look at the brassy backs and they have duck wings,that makes them look like the wild type, but they have dark legs.