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Post by homegroanacers on Jul 20, 2012 16:13:59 GMT -5
This lav cuckoo is all I have. How would I go about keeping this lav colored cuckoo going?
John
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Post by gayle on Jul 20, 2012 18:13:02 GMT -5
John (1) Does not recessive = hidden? I can see the white so I would think that it is dominate If it is hidden how can I see it. John Quoted definition when there are two copies of a recessive gene then it can make its appearance. all recessive genes need two copies to make their appearance. if there are two recessive copies there is no dominant gene/allele to block it out . If you have one dominate gene and one recessive gene. Then the dominant gene will make its appearance. But dominant white is incomplete dominant and does better with two copies, there are other genes that can dampen one copy of dominant white.
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Post by gayle on Jul 20, 2012 19:07:34 GMT -5
John Your white Orpington was a lavender which is covered with recessive white. Recessive white only white washes a bird, it dose not change the color of the bird. Since you breed the the white covered lavender bird to a lavender you knocked the recessive white off your white orpington (which had a lavender bird underneath). and of course there is a sex linked baring gene involved which put barring on you lavender. All recessive white birds have some other colored bird underneath the white. so next time you see a recessive white bird, you are seeing a colored bird which has been white washed. Most recessive whites have black birds underneath. But there are lines of recessive white with other colors underneath. Now dominate white works totally different it is a diluting gene and alters the color of the bird. crossing this white rooster (lav gene and cuckoo gene) with a white hen (I do not know whether she is recessive or dominate) will give me? I see white on them but will they carry either one of those (what I call hidden) genes? John John If they are orpingtons most likely they are recessive white. If you breed recessive white birds to each other they will continue to be recessive white, regardless what color they are covering. Have you figured out what sex you lavender cuckoo is. If it turns out to be a hen breed it back to the rooster parent. If the lavender cuckoo turns out to be a rooster mate it with a black or white hen. If you get lavender cuckoo from this cross then you know the black or white hen was recessive for lavender. But if you get all black chicks from this cross a percentage of them will be barred carry the recessive autosomal lavendar gene.
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Post by gayle on Jul 20, 2012 20:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by homegroanacers on Oct 20, 2012 15:48:21 GMT -5
Updated Pictures of my Lav Cuckoo Yeah I know its got red eyes That is what happens with flash I tried to take it out but so far I am not smart nuff Close Up same bird, color is really like the first picture John
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Post by vebyrd36 on Dec 8, 2012 20:50:22 GMT -5
Very pretty birds. I have the lemon cuckoo. Bill I sure would like a cuckoo roo from you. VIVI
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Post by lildinkem on Dec 9, 2012 9:43:04 GMT -5
Very pretty birds. I have the lemon cuckoo. Bill I sure would like a cuckoo roo from you. VIVI Nice talking with you Vivi. Today I will go out and look at the cockerel I mentioned to you last nite and make sure he has what you will like. Hope you and Renie are having fun with Orps Bill
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Post by lildinkem on Jun 14, 2013 20:13:51 GMT -5
Update on CUCKOOS. VIVI and Irene got their full brother to my 2 breeding males. As some of you may know, I was very lucky to get some Cuckoo eggs from Harry 4 years ago. This was before I had and Whites. Then Harry shipped me one fantastic White Orp last year. Both his Cuckoos and Whites has size from Ammarell lines and Moore lines. So many now like these Cuckoos, VIVI got her Cuckoo cockerel, who is brother to my two. She told me she was offered $200 for that bird. I told her she is free to do with him what she wants. Well, VIVI being a good hard working breeder knows what is inherit with these birds. She said nicely thanks but no thanks. I plan on getting her one more Cuckoo male to play with this fall. I now am exploiting the inherit size in using my breeders with first my 2 Pontious White pullets then now the BEHEMOTH is in with some of my lesser quality Blacks. The genetics with the Cuckoo gene is a fun one to play with. When breed to a solid Black or White girl, provided the girl has no Cuckoo in her genetics, will throw solid White & Black pullets, and all the boys will be Cuckoo. Well, I have about 8 or so Cuckoo cockerels I have hatched. The first wave was from the Pontious Whites. First is a pics of the 2 boys who are part Shaffer lines that I crossed with a Korfus/BUSTOFF Blacks (BUSTOFF is what I call a line of Blacks I made from breeding a solid Black Meyer Hatchery mutt mix cockerel, part Australorp and part Ameraucana with who knows what else, over gorgeous Akers Buff hens 4 years ago. Larry Lee, my buddy here in Indy, gave me these fantastic Buffs. He said to see if they were able to throw fertile eggs, it was his idea for me to use my horniest male. The Meyer hatchery mix. Thus, BUSTOFF was made. Needless to say BUSTOFF was 11 lbs at 11 months old). Since then I have made tons of different varieties that are not seen around here. Shaffer Cuckoos with a little Korfus/BUSTOFF in them BEHEMOTH, Very close to 12 lbs, if not more. Harry wants me to weigh him. I need too. You can see how big he is by looking at the standard size livestock fencing, which has 2' by 4' sections. His little brother Ralphie. Ralphie is in with another BUSTOFF line hen who is a Dun Birchen. One of many sons of the BEHEMOTH. He has a nice top line which both my adult males have. I like Ralphie a lot. I think he maybe a Dun Cuckoo by the looks of him which is why I have him in with this Dun Birchen hen This is a pic of the son from my breeding a sister of my Cuckoo line to a Dick Dickerson Cuckoo Marans. Fun thing about the BUSTOFF line is I have been getting one RUMPLESS bird each year now for 3 years strait. These oddballs seem to have 2 weird genes combined at a time. So, I got a Rumpless Black Bantam last year that I gave to Larry Lee. This year I have the MONGOLOID, aka MONGO. As you can see he has the feathered shanks from Dick's Cuckoo Marans cock. And has the enormous size that is now inherit in my Cuckoo line. He is one wild looking boy.
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Post by lildinkem on Jul 22, 2013 20:43:19 GMT -5
Nice young "Lemon" or Buff Cuckoo cockerel.
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Post by lildinkem on Jul 28, 2013 19:58:06 GMT -5
Couple of new pics from some of y Barred birds and or birds who has a barred parent. This fella I suspect is a son from my bigger Cuckoo cock. She definitely is a daughter from my bigger Cuckoo cock. 3/4 Dickerson Cuckoo Marans 1/4 from my line of Cuckoos
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Post by korfuskluckers on Aug 2, 2013 20:04:54 GMT -5
Couple of new pics from some of y Barred birds and or birds who has a barred parent. This fella I suspect is a son from my bigger Cuckoo cock. She definitely is a daughter from my bigger Cuckoo cock. 3/4 Dickerson Cuckoo Marans 1/4 from my line of Cuckoos I like the length of the first male. Can wait to see him when he is finished!!
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Post by korfuskluckers on Aug 2, 2013 20:06:08 GMT -5
I was going to say, cull that last cuckoo, than I realized he was part Marans lol.....are you going to use him?
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Post by lildinkem on Aug 2, 2013 22:18:03 GMT -5
I was going to say, cull that last cuckoo, than I realized he was part Marans lol.....are you going to use him? lol No, he and his mom may get sold on CL. I am culling hard with what I have. I have 3 decent Cuckoo cockerels, which are White splits. Harry says I should take my Columbian boys back to Cuckoo to make a line of Columbians. I will also take them to Whites. I really like the front on this male. The pullet is from my crossing my 13 lbs Cuckoo cock onto some of Gayle's old White line hens I hatched from last season. I may play around with them too.
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Post by Rooster Lew on Nov 11, 2013 16:30:09 GMT -5
Can any one tell me what causes the dark tails in some of the Lemon Cuckoo Roos? It seems to only appear in the birds with complete barring.
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Post by crystalwhite on Nov 13, 2013 20:13:02 GMT -5
Here is one of my blue cuckoo pullets.Look at the front on this bird.David
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