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Post by corncob1 on Feb 23, 2012 13:36:57 GMT -5
Are you sure something didn't sneak up on that hen when you weren't looking? ? Ha. Ha
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Post by Jon Alden on Feb 23, 2012 13:50:12 GMT -5
Are you sure something didn't sneak up on that hen when you weren't looking? ? Ha. Ha That looks like others i have seen that are Buff x Black
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Post by corncob1 on Feb 23, 2012 17:18:56 GMT -5
I see some growers say their cuckoos are not from splits but are pure. Can anyone explain splits , is that when something throws a odd off color ?
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Post by korfuskluckers on Feb 23, 2012 19:59:48 GMT -5
corncob, my whites are split for cuckoo, meaning they carry the gene they just do not express it because it is hidden by white. I see people advertise their buff females as splits. If they are not visible cuckoo they do not carry the gene and are not split. Females can only carry one bar gene. If you look at Bill male the one by the green bucket he is only caring one bar gene, you can tell that from the incomplete barring (only in the hackle and saddle.) Males can carry two genes and when they do they are barred all over. I think I have that right, if I am wrong please someone else correct me.
Christina
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Post by corncob1 on Feb 23, 2012 20:37:57 GMT -5
Thank you! I would assume then a roo with 2 genes ( full barring) and hen with 1 gene even if not expressed. Would give high % 2 gene chicks.?
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Post by Jon Alden on Feb 23, 2012 20:46:17 GMT -5
Thank you! I would assume then a roo with 2 genes ( full barring) and hen with 1 gene even if not expressed. Would give high % 2 gene chicks.? They would give all barred chickss
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Post by d12chandler on Feb 23, 2012 21:28:05 GMT -5
Last year I bred a cuckoo rosecomb male to a cuckoo rosecomb female, I got alot of cuckoo babies plus I got 4 black females.
Don
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Post by lildinkem on Feb 24, 2012 10:35:13 GMT -5
Yeah I am sure that the red male is from that cross. The male I used were from Harry S. I hatched out 3 males from his eggs 2 years ago. I used 2 of the 3 last year. Only have one now. I have about 4 decent pullets. And 2 more males. I kept this red looking male to throw at some Cuckoos. Just to see what would come out.
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Post by harrys on Feb 24, 2012 10:45:37 GMT -5
Bill, It is evident that one of the cuckoo males was only carrying one gene for cuckoo. Why not breed the red male also to some buffs and produce some Red Orp type offsprings? Then take the red hens to the cuckoo and make some Red Cuckoos?
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Post by lildinkem on Feb 24, 2012 11:31:17 GMT -5
Bill, It is evident that one of the cuckoo males was only carrying one gene for cuckoo. Why not breed the red male also to some buffs and produce some Red Orp type offsprings? Then take the red hens to the cuckoo and make some Red Cuckoos? Sounds good to me. Plus I still have 2 of the SS/BO mixed pullets. I was going to take Harold to these 2 SS/BO pullets. And try to see what will pop out. Harold is loaded with extra genes to fool around with. I really like the Dark Red color he has. And hope to make an all Dark Red bird of that color.
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Post by korfuskluckers on Feb 24, 2012 13:56:52 GMT -5
EE co+co+ db+db+ pg+pg+ ml+ml+ Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+ di+di+ Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+ Mo+Mo+ B- S- Choc+- Gender = Female, Ratio = 1/4 = 25%, minimum of animals to breed: 4 zwart unicolor koekoek black unicolor barred Continue with this Female | Select for later crossings EE co+co+ db+db+ pg+pg+ ml+ml+ Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+ di+di+ Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+ Mo+Mo+ Bb+ Ss+ Choc+Choc+ Gender = Male, Ratio = 1/4 = 25%, minimum of animals to breed: 4 zwart unicolor koekoek black unicolor barred Continue with this Male | Select for later crossings EE co+co+ db+db+ pg+pg+ ml+ml+ Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+ di+di+ Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+ Mo+Mo+ b+- S- Choc+- Gender = Female, Ratio = 1/4 = 25%, minimum of animals to breed: 4 zwart unicolor black unicolor Continue with this Female | Select for later crossings EE co+co+ db+db+ pg+pg+ ml+ml+ Cha+Cha+ mh+mh+ di+di+ Ig+Ig+ cb+cb+ i+i+ bl+bl+ Lav+Lav+ C+C+ Mo+Mo+ b+b+ Ss+ Choc+Choc+ Gender = Male, Ratio = 1/4 = 25%, minimum of animals to breed: 4 zwart unicolor black unicolor Continue with this Male | Select for later crossings
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Post by korfuskluckers on Feb 24, 2012 13:58:25 GMT -5
My above post is a male carring one barred gene. You will get blacks and barred the blacks dont carry the barred gene. If a double barred gene you will get all barred.
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Post by henthymes on Jun 24, 2012 9:38:17 GMT -5
Barred Question... On the males, what should the correct head/hackle feather color be? I have three young bantams growing out and I notice one of them has darker more even coloring from head to tail, the other two have a lighter head/hackle than the body. They also have a bit tighter barred patterning and almost a silver tone to the neck. At this point does it matter or should other things be considered first like overall size, conformation, comb ect? (these are bantams)
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Post by Jon Alden on Jun 24, 2012 10:02:38 GMT -5
Barred Question... On the males, what should the correct head/hackle feather color be? I have three young bantams growing out and I notice one of them has darker more even coloring from head to tail, the other two have a lighter head/hackle than the body. They also have a bit tighter barred patterning and almost a silver tone to the neck. At this point does it matter or should other things be considered first like overall size, conformation, comb ect? (these are bantams) It could be that the one that is more even has 2 barring genes whereas the others could just have 1.
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Post by karli965 on Jul 6, 2012 4:42:26 GMT -5
Just thought you might like to see the Best Cuckoo Orpington shown in Australia in 2012. Ch at both the Olympic and Orpington Northern feature shows. Bred from Whites. M
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