Carm
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Post by Carm on Apr 6, 2014 8:12:36 GMT -5
This is sort of a roundabout question. Has anyone crossed white into buff and bred it back up to buff? We are looking for a bantam breed for the kids and there are almost no bantam orpington's in Canada. There are a fair number of bantam rocks though. There is a breeder near here that has great white rock bantams, has even done well in Ohio. I have talked to him about getting some birds, but am now wondering about buff rock bantams to match the buff orpingtons we show. So I wondered about breeding his white rock line into a buff rock line. Any thoughts? Or by the time they breed buff, have I lost most of the other traits his whites offered? Anyone tried this with their orpingtons?
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Post by d12chandler on Apr 6, 2014 16:47:24 GMT -5
Wild Bill is doing a lot of that, give him time, he'll be on here.
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Post by lildinkem on Apr 7, 2014 9:37:23 GMT -5
Some factors in the crossing of White onto Buff. Sometimes in the LF Buff Orps there is hidden recessive White. Sometimes it is a silver White. If that is the case you may very well get pure White males. Not sure if you can get any eggs from Vern H. He has White and Buffs bantams I believe. Maybe just easier getting a few eggs from him first.
Good luck,
Bill
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Post by Jon Alden on Apr 7, 2014 18:56:34 GMT -5
Carm, that has been done a few times with Buff rock breeders from what I understand. I would suggest crossing a buff cock over the best white hen(s) then taking the resulting offspring together. You might try contacting Tom Roebuck, he breeds both Buff Rock LF and bantams, and Buff in other breeds and has done similar crosses.
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Carm
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Post by Carm on Apr 10, 2014 7:55:13 GMT -5
Thanks Jon, I contacted Tom. Here is an excerpt from his email on what I might expect:
"take a Buff male and breed it to two White females so you have some genetic diversity. I'd then take the best typed offspring from that mating and breed them together. That should produce some pure Buff offspring but they will most likely be dark orange. Also keep in mind that this is a numbers game, meaning that the more you hatch the better the odds you'll make progress quicker. I'd also take those f1 cross females and breed them back to their father. that should also produce dark birds with black in the tails and probably gray/slate undercolor."
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