Carm
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Post by Carm on Feb 9, 2014 22:42:33 GMT -5
This sort of ties into my vent feather regrowth thread. I am now wondering about artificially insemenating show birds. I'll still have some breed naturally, but use it as a way to get some offspring of the show birds that I want to show early in the year. Anyone here tried it? I have watched some videos and did some reading on it. It doesn't look too scientific.
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Post by crystalwhite on Feb 10, 2014 10:07:20 GMT -5
I do this all the time.I use it on the old male that are to old to breed the hens.It works great beacause you no you will have 100% fertility.Thanks David
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Post by sgtilton on Feb 10, 2014 12:39:42 GMT -5
I have to be honest, I've not heard of this before. Are there no side effects or any differences in chick health or anything?
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Post by iaechickens on Feb 10, 2014 13:07:44 GMT -5
It happens in animal agriculture all the time. Even people. When healthy sperm reach healthy egg fertilization happens. Poor semen handling techniques will kill sperm resulting in non fertilization. For example in cattle, I use this because it's where I have the most experience, sunlight, temperature cleaning agents can all effect sperm. If you kill or weaken the sperm, you most likely won't get fertilization, not an unhealthy chick. As far as chickens and poultry go. it happen quite a bit in the commercial side. It is my understanding that in commercial turkeys, all breeding is done AI. The breast on the tom have gotten so big, his "other parts" can reach to do the job.
EDIT: This was my first response of actual knowledge, I apologize if I were "know it all"ish. |
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Post by iaechickens on Feb 10, 2014 13:09:21 GMT -5
Am I not mistaken though, it takes two people to accomplish this. One to hold the bird and one to hold the scringe.
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Carm
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Post by Carm on Feb 10, 2014 16:15:44 GMT -5
David, when you are AI'ing, do you trim vent feathers on males? I was looking today and am not sure how well it will work to leave all of the fluff for show and still do the process clean and effectively.
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Post by d12chandler on Feb 10, 2014 16:54:52 GMT -5
AI is a nice tool in breeding poultry. It's not 100% good, if your male isn't fertile you won't get fertile eggs. I like to use younger males early and my eggs are pretty good. Sometimes older males don't good till it warms up. Not true with all old males, some will be good.
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Post by Jon Alden on Feb 10, 2014 18:13:58 GMT -5
With big birds you will probably need two people but I know a guy that does it himself and uses a sample spoon to collect the sperm. Also was told some people just use their thumb nail
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Post by Jon Alden on Feb 10, 2014 18:15:17 GMT -5
With big birds you will probably need two people but I know a guy that does it himself and uses a sample spoon to collect the sperm. Also was told some people just use their thumb nail. I was thinking about the breeding season next year, it will be pushed back a bit due to Knoxville unless I decide to AI.
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Post by crystalwhite on Feb 10, 2014 18:19:06 GMT -5
Yes i pluck the feathers around the veny befor i AI them.
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Post by crystalwhite on Feb 10, 2014 18:22:13 GMT -5
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Post by Carm on Feb 10, 2014 20:50:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. Thanks for the video also. Other than not being in English, it's the best one I've seen
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Post by iaechickens on Feb 10, 2014 21:38:38 GMT -5
That was a neat. This would save hen (saddle) feathers also, correct?
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Post by iaechickens on Feb 11, 2014 8:07:55 GMT -5
Male and Female? How large an area?
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Post by crystalwhite on Feb 11, 2014 15:21:01 GMT -5
both about the size of your fist.
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