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Post by harrys on Aug 30, 2013 21:49:53 GMT -5
littlechicklet, Have Gayle confirm this but if you use the hen with a light eye to a dark eyed male all the pullets with dark eyes will be good and I personally would cull the males becuase they will be carriers even if their eyes are dark. I believe it is a recessive sexlink gene that controls the light eye color.
Of course this would have to be a controlled breeding program to hatch them seperately and toe punch them to be able to identify who they really are.
Of course this would also be a way to test mate all your males using this hen to see which male is also carrying the light eye gene if you wish to eliminate it totally from the males you are using.
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Post by bamachicken on Aug 30, 2013 23:03:29 GMT -5
Gayle your blues are looking good.
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 7, 2013 19:30:28 GMT -5
Gayle those pullets do look great. Not easy to get that full rounded breast. I read someone saying that he see's to many flat chested Orps. The only place that it is good to see flat on an Orp is the topline or back.
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 8, 2013 8:51:51 GMT -5
I have been calling this look of Blue as a "LEMON" Blue. Being from another site that has the blind leading the blinder, I was one of those blinder ones who thought that was the variety. Last nite I sent an email to my mentor and friend Paul showing him I listened to him and Troy last fall and used this boy's daddy. Just like I listened to Alan and used my Black cock from my Brown Red I call Yosemitee. So Paul says this is a BLUE RED. And I should show him as that. I will use him in breeding next season knowing that 50% of the offspring will not express themselves as BLue Reds. Learn something everyday. He is a mid April hatch. When he finishes out he should be nice.
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Post by littlechicklet on Sept 8, 2013 22:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by lildinkem on Sept 9, 2013 10:00:06 GMT -5
Pretty Blues Littlechicklet! GREAT LACING! "Lemon" Blue has been coined by the same folks who coined "BBS". As you learned "BBS" is not a term used by the judges in the APA show world. Put "Lemon" Blue in that category. When I breed this Blue he will throw 1/2 with this trait and 1/2 without. Selective breeding will eradicate that gene over time.
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Post by littlechicklet on Sept 9, 2013 16:08:29 GMT -5
Thank you. I am going to keep all my pullets and see what next year brings. I only have 6 I think: 5 blue and 1 black plus 2 hens (one blue and the light eyed black I will not use again). Plus I have the little blue BB just hatched. So it looks like I am finally going to have a decent number of good girls to work with in the Spring.
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Post by Jon Alden on Sept 9, 2013 16:16:14 GMT -5
Bill, Lemon Blue is a variety that is in the standard, go look, Blue Red is also, it is not what you have there. What you have is just blue with red leakage. From what I have been told by breeders of blue in other breeds, you want to have the Silver gene with the blue in order for better coloring, but that is hard to get since most breeders interbreed the lines of Blue and black birds within the breed. Red helps with the green sheen in the blacks.
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Post by d12chandler on Sept 9, 2013 16:47:49 GMT -5
I used to have Lemon Blue Old English and also Rosecombs. If I remember right I got splashes out of them also.
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Post by gayle on Sept 12, 2013 13:55:35 GMT -5
Looking at the Old English breeders. I'm guessing. It looks like the Brown Reds, Lemon Blues, Silver Blues are sitting on the ER loci. They all appear to be modified Birchens. Noting the dark legs, lacing on the breast and the crow wings. They all look very Birchen. Then you look at the brassy backs and they have duck wings,that makes them look like the wild type, but they have dark legs.
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Post by littlechicklet on Sept 12, 2013 21:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by d12chandler on Sept 13, 2013 11:06:00 GMT -5
I think if you are going to a show, I would enter that young blue lady. She's nice to me.
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Post by littlechicklet on Sept 13, 2013 12:40:46 GMT -5
Thanks Don. She is the only one so far out of my hatches that I really like the best. I think I will show her along with several of the Buffs from you. I don't know about any cockerels yet.
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Post by d12chandler on Sept 13, 2013 13:13:58 GMT -5
It don't hurt to just show females early, at the later show the males will be ready. Just takes males longer.
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Post by d12chandler on Sept 14, 2013 10:04:23 GMT -5
Gayle or someome, I was asked this and I don't know. Can you look at a black orp and tell if they are carrying blue genes?
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